Queering Internal Family Systems (IFS) Podcast
A conversation between two queer, neurodivergent IFS therapists who wanted to talk about the things that don't always make it into the training room.
Hosted by Jude Carn and Alessio Rizzo, Queering IFS explores what happens when you bring a queer and neurodivergent lens to Internal Family Systems therapy. Each episode is a genuine conversation: about identity, parts, self-energy, shame, joy, nature, and the places where the model needs to stretch a little further.
Whether you're an IFS therapist, in IFS therapy yourself, or just curious about what it means to do this work in a body and a life like yours, you're welcome here.
New episodes drop fortnightly. Find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.
Episode 18 - Queering Internal Family Systems (IFS) - Adapting IFS for NeuroQueer Clients
Adapting IFS for Neuroqueer Clients
In this episode, Jude and Alessio open up a conversation they've been circling for a while: what does it actually mean to adapt IFS for neurodivergent and queer clients? Not as a checklist of tweaks, but as something more fundamental.
They talk about the difference between changing a slide background colour and genuinely redesigning how the model is taught and held. Alessio shares his experience collaborating on the first neurodivergent-friendly Level 1 IFS training, and reflects on how access fatigue can creep in when a model built for neurotypical brains is simply handed over unchanged.
Episode 16 - Queering Internal Family Systems (IFS) - Discrimination Burnout
Not all discrimination announces itself. Sometimes it's the thing that didn't happen: the job that went to someone else, the room that went quiet, the invitation that never came. In this episode Jude and Alessio look at discrimination burnout, and specifically at how the weight of these non-events accumulates in neurodivergent and queer systems.
Episode 13 - Queering IFS - Access Fatigue
In this episode, Jude and Alessio explore the concept of access fatigue, the exhaustion that comes from repeatedly having to ask for, explain, or negotiate your needs in spaces that were not designed with you in mind.
Episode 11 - Queering IFS (Internal Family Systems) - Is the Self Neurodivergent?
This week, Alessio and Jude explore the intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and neurodivergence, as they ponder intriguing questions about the Self and neurodivergence.
Episode 10 - Queering IFS - Keys to Neurodivergent Affirming Internal Family Systems Practice
In this episode, Jude Carn and Alessio Rizzo explore the keys to neurodivergent-affirming practices in IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy, and psychotherapy and counselling more broadly, exploring how therapists can better accommodate clients’ diverse needs.